{"id":635,"date":"2019-03-14T08:42:30","date_gmt":"2019-03-14T08:42:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/virtualseminar.icae.global\/?p=635"},"modified":"2019-03-11T18:49:02","modified_gmt":"2019-03-11T18:49:02","slug":"comment-by-julio-cesar-tovar-galvez-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/virtualseminar.icae.global\/?p=635","title":{"rendered":"Comment by Julio C\u00e9sar Tovar-G\u00e1lvez"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p style=\"text-align:center\" class=\"has-text-color has-medium-font-size has-vivid-cyan-blue-color\"><strong>Julio C\u00e9sar Tovar-G\u00e1lvez comments on the article&nbsp;<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/virtualseminar.icae.global\/?p=620\"><strong>&#8220;Impact beyond the tests: adult education that makes a real difference&#8221;<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"color:#00a329;text-align:center\" class=\"has-text-color has-small-font-size\"><em>El texto en espa\u00f1ol est\u00e1 abajo<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:center\" class=\"has-text-color has-medium-font-size has-very-dark-gray-color\"><strong>From seeing disabled people to seeing various functionals<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Colombian, doing a PhD in educational science at Martin-Luther-Universit\u00e4t Halle-Wittenberg, German<em>y<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Changing the way we see others is the first step to direct inclusive educational processes. This issue begins with a change of minds, so that we can be fair and restore dignity to the people we have traditionally called &#8220;disabled&#8221;. It leads to new ways of thinking about educational processes and practices.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am going to expose my ideas through a case that I lived in a School of Education in Colombia. I was the professor of a student who identifies herself as a &#8220;deaf person&#8221;. She had outlined her thesis project on teaching science to deaf people, with the guidance of a professor of the School. When she came to me, she had to implement the project, make the report and support it in public. I accompanied her in that process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211;&nbsp;<strong>Change of minds, dignity and justice<\/strong>: my first feeling was fear. I was not trained to deal with a population that has capacities that do not correspond to those of the majority. Soon I began to read about the subject and to interact more with her. I talked to other teachers of her who were my colleagues and to her classmates. At the end of the presentation of her thesis project, most of us recognized the huge work and the real contribution to the teaching of science. We consider it an exceptional work. Our point of view was based on the contribution and novelty to the research field and not on apparent pity. However, someone from the jury said that she did not deserve the maximum recognition, because the student had not written [in written Spanish language, which is a second language for her] a rigorous report. I realized that something was going wrong: we are convinced that people are defective and that if they do not meet the &#8220;normal&#8221; standards, there is not much to do. I realized that we were transgressing her dignity as a person and that we were being unfair. The limitation was ours and not hers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211;&nbsp;<strong>New ways of understanding educational processes and practices<\/strong>: the models (for example, Patston, 2007) and the experience itself showed me that we must change our mentality about the way we understand people. The transformation of education depends, to a large extent, on the fact that we stop seeing &#8220;disabled people&#8221; and begin to see &#8220;people with functional diversity&#8221;. People have different ways of learning, of processing, of relating, of communicating, of expressing ourselves, as well as different configurations and functionalities of our bodies, etc. No one is defective, limited, unskilled, incapable; so we do not repair, rehabilitate or train people. And in my understanding of a part of Butler-Morello&#8217;s text, then other criteria and systems of evaluation consistent with the diversities are necessary; perhaps more related to what people achieve and not what they lack.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>References<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Patston, Philip. (2007). Constructive Functional Diversity: A new paradigm beyond disability and impairment.&nbsp;<em>Disability and Rehabilitation, 29<\/em>(20\u201321), 1625 \u2013 1633.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"color:#074809;text-align:center\" class=\"has-text-color has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Julio C\u00e9sar Tovar-G\u00e1lvez comenta sobre el art\u00edculo&nbsp;<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/virtualseminar.icae.global\/?p=620\"><strong>\u201cProducir un impacto m\u00e1s all\u00e1 de las evaluaciones: una educaci\u00f3n de adultos que marca la diferencia<\/strong><em><strong>\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Colombiano haciendo un doctorado en ciencias de la educaci\u00f3n en Martin-Luther-Universit\u00e4t Halle-Wittenberg, Alemania<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:center\" class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>De ver discapacitados a ver diversos funcionales<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cambiar la forma en que vemos a los dem\u00e1s, es el primer paso para orientar procesos educativos incluyentes. Este es un tema que empieza con cambiar nuestras mentes, para as\u00ed&nbsp;&nbsp;ser justos y restituir la dignidad a las personas a las que tradicionalmente hemos llamado \u201cdiscapacitadas\u201d. Y desemboca en nuevas formas de pensar los procesos y pr\u00e1cticas educativas.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voy a exponer mis ideas a trav\u00e9s de un caso que viv\u00ed en una Facultad de Educaci\u00f3n en Colombia. Yo fui profesor de una estudiante que se identifica a s\u00ed misma como \u201cpersona-sorda. Ella hab\u00eda planteado su proyecto de tesis sobre la ense\u00f1anza de las ciencias a personas-sordas, con la orientaci\u00f3n de una profesora de la Facultad. Cuando ella lleg\u00f3 a m\u00ed, deb\u00eda implementar el proyecto, hacer el informe y sustentar p\u00fablicamente. Yo la acompa\u00f1\u00e9 en ese proceso.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>&#8211; Cambio de mentes, dignidad y justicia:<\/strong>mi primer sentimiento fue el miedo. Yo no fui formado para atender una poblaci\u00f3n que tiene capacidades que no corresponden a las de la mayor\u00eda. Pronto empec\u00e9 a leer sobre el tema y a interactuar m\u00e1s con ella. Escuch\u00e9 a otros profesores de ella que eran colegas m\u00edos y a sus compa\u00f1eros de clase. Al finalizar la presentaci\u00f3n de su proyecto de tesis, la mayor\u00eda reconocimos el inmenso trabajo y el real aporte a la ense\u00f1anza de las ciencias. Consideramos que era un trabajo excepcional. Nuestro punto de vista se sustentaba en el aporte y novedad al campo de investigaci\u00f3n y no en aparente l\u00e1stima. Sin embargo alguien del jurado dijo que no merec\u00eda el m\u00e1ximo reconocimiento, porque la estudiante no hab\u00eda escrito [en idioma espa\u00f1ol escrito, que es una segunda lengua para ella] un informe riguroso. Me di cuenta que algo estaba fallando: estamos convencidos que las personas son defectuosas y que si no cumplen con los est\u00e1ndares \u201cnormales\u201d, no hay mucho que hacer. Me di cuenta que estamos trasgrediendo su dignidad como persona y que est\u00e1bamos siendo injustos. La limitaci\u00f3n era nuestra y no suya.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>&#8211; Nuevas formas de entender los procesos y pr\u00e1cticas educativas:<\/strong>los referentes (por ejemplo Patston, 2007) y la misma experiencia me mostr\u00f3 que debemos cambiar nuestra mentalidad sobre la forma en que entendemos a las personas. La transformaci\u00f3n de la educaci\u00f3n depende en gran medida de que dejemos de ver \u201cdiscapacitados\u201d y empecemos a ver \u201cpersonas con diversidad funcional\u201d. Las personas tenemos diversas formas de aprender, de procesar, de relacionarnos, de comunicarnos, de expresarnos, as\u00ed como diversas configuraciones y funcionalidades de nuestros cuerpos, etc. Nadie es defectuoso, limitado, inh\u00e1bil, incapaz; as\u00ed que no reparamos, rehabilitamos o capacitamos a las personas. Y en mi forma de entender una parte del texto de Butler-Morello, entonces son necesarios otros criterios y sistemas de evaluaci\u00f3n coherentes con las diversidades; quiz\u00e1s m\u00e1s relativos a qu\u00e9 logran los sujetos y no a qu\u00e9 les falta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Referencias<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Patston, Philip. (2007). Constructive Functional Diversity: A new paradigm beyond disability and impairment.&nbsp;<em>Disability and Rehabilitation, 29<\/em>(20\u201321), 1625 \u2013 1633.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\">Links to the AED 85\/2018&nbsp;publication in three languages:&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/adult-education-and-development\/editions\/aed-852018-role-and-impact-of-adult-education\/\" target=\"_blank\">English<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/fr\/education-des-adultes-et-developpement\/numeros\/ead-852018-role-et-impact-de-leducation-des-adultes\/\" target=\"_blank\">French<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/es\/educacion-de-adultos-y-desarrollo\/ediciones\/ead-852018-papel-e-impacto-de-la-educacion-de-adultos\/\" target=\"_blank\">Spanish<\/a><br>Estos son los links para acceder a la publicaci\u00f3n en tres idiomas:&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/adult-education-and-development\/editions\/aed-852018-role-and-impact-of-adult-education\/\" target=\"_blank\">In<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/adult-education-and-development\/editions\/aed-842017-inclusion-and-diversity\/\">gl\u00e9s<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/fr\/education-des-adultes-et-developpement\/numeros\/ead-852018-role-et-impact-de-leducation-des-adultes\/\" target=\"_blank\">Franc\u00e9s<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/es\/educacion-de-adultos-y-desarrollo\/ediciones\/ead-852018-papel-e-impacto-de-la-educacion-de-adultos\/\" target=\"_blank\">Espa\u00f1ol<\/a><br>Voici les liens vers la publication en trois langues:&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/adult-education-and-development\/editions\/aed-852018-role-and-impact-of-adult-education\/\" target=\"_blank\">Anglais&nbsp;<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/fr\/education-des-adultes-et-developpement\/numeros\/ead-852018-role-et-impact-de-leducation-des-adultes\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fran\u00e7ais<\/a>,&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvv-international.de\/es\/educacion-de-adultos-y-desarrollo\/ediciones\/ead-852018-papel-e-impacto-de-la-educacion-de-adultos\/\" target=\"_blank\">Espagnol<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-color has-small-font-size has-vivid-red-color\"><em><strong>Veuillez utiliser&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/deref-gmx.net\/mail\/client\/Gxo2ek2GbBo\/dereferrer\/?redirectUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fx58417.track.list-manage7.net%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3D656784%26p%3D35383431373a343a343a303a333a30%26s%3D890bd7cbee7e1e2470705156d07d14e8%26m%3D6\">google translator<\/a><\/strong><\/em><em><strong>&nbsp;pour traduire les articles qui ne sont pas en fran\u00e7ais<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Julio C\u00e9sar Tovar-G\u00e1lvez comments on the article&nbsp;&#8220;Impact beyond the tests: adult education that makes a real difference&#8221; 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